We met Sean Hanna in a friend’s living room ahead of a wedding early in this millenium. Sean was and is the founding publisher of InvestmentWires – including 401kwire.com, mutualfundwire.com, and a new publication – CeFiWire.com – focused on institutional investors and Web3 tech.

Josh Cohen loves this topic of retirement savings and income adequacy. He’s also deeply curious about the evolution of the industry. How is it that plan sponsors became plan sponsors – and why do things work the way they do? We caught up with Josh to talk about his new podcast, and intriguing results from PGIM’s latest defined contribution survey.